Sunday, 25 January 2009

  • Meat And Dairy Gross Me Out




    This is something I hardly ever talk about to people.  I never bring it up because I'm afraid of sounding too preachy.  I don't want to form anyone's opinions about this, but don't let this entry turn you off. 

    I'm not going to try to influence you.  This is an entry that I sort of hope will clear things up for everyone who asks me questions that I am afraid to answer.

    It started when I was in elementary school.  I remember it clearly: it was before supper time, but it was dark outside because it was winter.  I was sitting on the kitchen floor of my house, on top of the ugly tan tile, and the meatballs were simmering on the stove. 

    Spaghetti was for dinner that night.  I was five, six or seven.  I don't remember the exact age but I remember I had pretty much just started school.  You know that smell that meatballs sometimes get when they're cooking?  It's hard to describe.  To this day, I only smell it sometimes when my mom is cooking.  But it's a really bitter, sour, gross smell.

    My mom is in no way a bad cook and I'm not trying to blame this on her. But I was really hungry that night, and it was like waiting for Christmas morning waiting for that supper to be done, but it smelled really gross. Something came over me - at such a young age, I realized what was cooking, and I decided that I was never going to eat meat again. I stopped, cold turkey. I wondered why we had cows on our dinner plates. It was easy for me to give up: I had never really enjoyed meat, anyway.

    My family was worried about me. My family doctor was worried about me and suggested they sent me to a psychologist so I could talk about why I had switched to this kind of diet. Being so young, this overwhelmed me, and I couldn't imagine going to a shrink - it made me feel broken, so I cried a lot, and they never sent me. I was glad.

    There were times that we'd go out to eat and my parents would try to bribe me to eat meat. I never wanted to. They said they'd give me ten dollars a chicken finger. At a restaurant, I'd tried to eat one. My eyes were tearing and my gag reflexes were going. I managed to get down a bite which I later threw up on the floor. This happened roughly once a year until I was age ten.  I never got any money because I never got past the first bite, which never even went down. I decided I was done with that bullshit.

    Between when I had stopped eating meat, and middle school, I'd also cut out drinking milk (even though I would eat things that contained it, like macaroni and cheese, or cookies, etc.) and yogurt. It wasn't entirely the dairy that had turned me off to yogurt, it was the "helpful bacteria" part.  I had never eaten any kind of my seafood prior to going vegetarian so that wasn't a problem to give up.

    Entering middle school, I'd discovered music. Good music. Alternative rock and punk and stuff. A lot of these bands were interwoven with PETA. Surfing the internet, I'd found a lot of interviews from these bands. It just made me wonder why, if I was strong enough to give up meat, fish, most eggs, and some dairy products, why I hadn't gone completely vegan. The studies about milk interested me. Perhaps "interested me" isn't the phrase - more like  "grossed me out a lot".

    I stopped pretty much cold turkey with that - not eating cheese or ice cream or cookies or cake, which is probably a good things. That's junk food and no one needs it anyway. Over the first few months, I had found myself at a lot of places - birthday parties, etc - where pizza was ordered. Often, I'd just pick off the cheese and eat the rest. I gradually stopped doing that too, and now when I go out for pizza, I order cheeseless broccoli pizza and it is like eating heaven.

    I wish I had a dollar for every time someone said, "but milking the cow doesn't kill it." I don't care. It's still fucking gross. I've always been a germophobe. Keep your body fluids away from me. Even you, cow.  Further explanation below, highlight to read because of grossness factor.

    Milk contains hormones, pus, and blood. The cows are overmilked, the milkers are always on the udders which create sores and therefore leak into milk. That is why I stopped drinking milk, guys. Then the whole idea of clotting the milk to make cheese with enzymes from a baby cow's stomach - no siree I don't want any part in that.

    The reason I stopped eating meat and dairy was not because of the animals. It was not to be healthy or shrink my environmental footprints. I stopped eating meat and dairy because it grosses me the fuck out.

    This is an interesting site about milk and its relation to diseases, like acid blood. [For the record, it has nothing to do with PETA.] 

    I do love animals. I respect the environment to an extent. I see the ethical side - it does make me sick to the stomach to imagine that some people are eating animals. But that's as far as it goes. I don't mind eating around meat eaters. Meat eating only bothers me once a year - when my mom cooks turkey for Thanksgiving and the smell permeates the entire house. But other than that, I have no complaints.

    Going vegan wasn't hard for me at all. My family supports me, for the most part. I had always packed a lunch for school so getting food at school hasn't been a problem. Going to restaurants is not a problem, and no, I do not just order a salad. In fact, salad is my least favorite thing in the whole world.

    Everything that you eat that's not vegan, my mom and I can easily veganize. I love lasagna with soy cheese, soups, soy ice cream, grilled soy cheese, scrambled tofu, etc. Food is good.

    I get shit from some people I meet. I get shit from my grandparents and some of my family. But I have to say it's one of the best decisions I've ever made. You truly are healthier, happier, and you have a much cleaner conscience.

    If you're a meat eater, are you comfortable eating around someone that is a vegetarian? How about vice versa?

    healthkicker.com

Comments (207)

  • FallenReign@xanga

    Honestly, it doesn't bother me to eat around a vegetarian. I mean, that's their choice, and they're the ones who have to deal with it ((sorry if that sounds negative, I just mean that it has to be at least a little harder to eat in restaurants and the like)). I hate it when I'm at lunch and someone's like, "Is that ham on your sandwich? Ewwwwwwwww. Don't you know how horrible they treated that poor, poor piggy?" That kinda pisses me off, but just because I'm of the school of thought 'live and let live'. -shrugs-

  • CarmineKiss@xanga

    i like my meat and dairy products.

    vegans/vegetarians can eat whatever they please. i don't tell them to eat meat, so if they don't tell me to only eat veggies, all is well. i could care less that they don't feel like eating meat or dairy products... but if they start lecturing about animals dying or how i should be a vegan/vegetarian like them while i'm eating, or even when i'm not eating, i'm going to be aggravated.

  • kmiahali

    i don't think i could survive without meat or dairy.

  • watchthe_xsky@xanga

    I'm a vegetarian (actually, it's vegan now, I'm still not used to saying that) and it doesn't bother me when people around me eat meat. Seeing uncooked meat does make me feel quite naseous and when people decide to go into detail explaining the origins of some meat product, that grosses me out. Other than that, no issues.

  • serra_avarta@xanga

    hey thanks! i didn't know there was soy cheese : )
    and soy and youghurt ice cream is wayyy awesome xDD

  • peacelove__CALLIE@xanga

    I really hate meat and dairy. In my situation, (being broke and all) I eat what I am given because I don't have a choice (not a big choice anyway).

    I love vegans and vegetarians, and I envy them. I wish I were one, each and every day. I am a passionate animal lover, and I get so damn angry at myself for eating meat and dairy.

    Both make me sick. I had eggs and bacon for breakfast, with cheese. I felt like vomiting.

    I ate a sausage dog for lunch, I wanted to throw up again.

    When I smell meat cooking, just like you described, I get so nauseated. I link the smell of meat to when I had chicken pox, because my aunts boyfriend made nasty meat all of the time during that period in my life.

    When I eat meat, I have to avoid looking at it. I honestly cant eat it and look at it.

    I love you vegan people. <3 I hope I can meet enough of them to guide me towards becoming vegetarian or vegan.

  • marianney@xanga

    I have a few vegetarian friends that don't mind me eating meat around them. Actually, come to think of it, I'm one of the few non-vegetarians in our group... But anyway, they respect my decision in the same way I respect theirs :)

  • TornadoChaser@momaroo

    I am 90% vegan (still working on the switch, should be complete in the next month or so) and my husband is omnivore. When I first started vegetarianism I was okay with him continuing to eat meat, I even cooked it for him. As time went on... I just couldn't do it. I would start gagging at the thought of it. Now he cooks his own meat and I just try not to think about it when we eat dinner together. I keep my opinions to myself until someone directly asks about being vegan. I can be disgusted on the inside.  

  • Strangebrain@xanga
  • macphoto@xanga

    meat and dairy gross me out. I hate the site of raw meat. I wont touch or cook it. If someone in my house wants meat, they are on their own to cook it. 

  • LadyLibellule@xanga

    I hate eating around meat-eaters.  The smell is gross.  But I also hate watching people eat things like drumsticks or wings.  Pulling flesh off a bone with your teeth just seems... barbaric.

    Being 100% vegan is very difficult.  Even most vegans who think they are 100% vegan probably aren't.  It's the sugar that'll get you.  Bone char... mmmm...

  • XxAnaMiaxAngelxX@xanga

    I'm a Vegetarian. I have been by choice since I was 10, 11ish. I'm almost vegan, I don't eat eggs & don't eat much milk & never drink it straight.
    I agree, It just grosses me out. I think its yucky, the milk thing. And where eggs  come from, out of a chickens rear end, yuck!
    I agree a hundred and ten percent.
    And eating around meat eating ppl-    Its thier choice not mine. But I hate it when they give me shit for not or (cirtain)dairy/eggs eating meat. Sometimes thou, I cant stand to see at.
    And the smell bothers me, especailly in mass quantities or when its diffrent.

  • ShelDrake@xanga

    yay, Chelsea! :D



    - I kinda feel uncomfortable eating meat or dairy around my vegan friend up there, but I still do it.

  • QuantumStorm@xanga

    //Milk contains hormones, pus, and blood. The cows are overmilked, the
    milkers are always on the udders which create sores and therefore leak
    into milk. That is why I stopped drinking milk, guys. Then the whole
    idea of clotting the milk to make cheese with enzymes from a baby cow's
    stomach - no siree I don't want any part in that.//

    Pasteurization takes care of the issue of contamination... usually.

  • QuantumStorm@xanga
  • PixelDOT@xanga

    Dairy doesn't bother me in the gross-out way you described (though I can't eat it anyway due to lactose intolerance. Go soy!)

    But the whole concept of meat weirds me out a bit. It always has. I don't like the texture, I don't like the concept of chewing a once living animal's muscles. Raw meat especially makes me nauseated, in the same way seeing a chunk of human muscle torn from someone's side to be cut up and breaded would disturb anyone else.

    Though I felt this as a kid, I would still eat meat (although most of it ended up pushed aside and eaten as a last resort) but now that I'm on my own, I would never cook meat for myself. In restaurants, I try to go with a meatless option, but if it's meat or nothing, I'm usually fine eating it.

  • laytexduckie@xanga

    I have several friends who are vegetarian and vegan. I went and ate pizza with some friends who were vegetarian and they had no problem with me eating meat around them.

    I have no problem with vegans or vegetarians. The only time I do is when someone I don't even know comes up when I'm enjoying my meal and shouts and points "Animal Killer" and starts judging and criticizing me just because I eat meat.

    I do wanna clear up though, that after milk leaves the cow, it is treated so the bacteria and germs are not present in the milk that you then drink from the carton. I drink alot of milk (whole, skim, 2% and soy) and I must say that soy is usually a better option for me since it  is healthier, lasts longer than regular milk and actually has a great taste. :)

  • KasumiCelesta@xanga

    Why would I be uncomfortable eating around someone who's a vegetarian? I eat vegetables too :) If a vegetarian/vegan starts lecturing me though, I WILL say something not-very-nice. I don't bother them, they don't bother me.

    You know what grosses me out? Okay, not really to that extent...but the fact that they put tofu in all kinds of stuff to replace meat. NO. If I want meat, I eat meat. I actually DO like tofu--my mom is Korean so tofu is a regular item in our fridge, as well as a lot of other healthy stuff that Koreans eat.

    As far as the blood and milk thing...that's why milk is pasteurized, right? I actually don't like drinking milk (unless it's with cookies) as well as a lot of dairy-based products like yogurt and cheesecake, not because it's "gross" but because I just don't like the taste of it. People call me weird and stuff and it pisses me off, but I just ignore them. So good for you that you don't take the flack that people give you.

    The germs thing, though...germs are everywhere, and you can't get away from them. Fruits and vegetables that aren't washed properly have germs on them. I hope you're somehow getting all the vitamins that you would be getting from what's missing in your diet.

  • kazzya@xanga

    THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR WRITING THIS.

    im a vegan, and it is the most amazing thing i've ever done for myself, the animals and the environment. If only more people would have the courage to do this. and you're right, it isn't that difficult.
  • s_a_r_a_h_1@xanga

    One of my best friends is vegan and I eat meat and dairy. We never have any problems! :)

  • AllMyNamesAreTaken@xanga

    I don't care what the people around me are eating as long as it doesn't smell funky. I will complain about peanut butter in my presence, but most things beyond that don't smell nauseous. I also see nothing courageous about changing your diet, as I've seen the word used in relation with veganism/vegetarianism, especially if all you're doing is cutting something out of your diet that you didn't like to eat anyway.

    Personally, I think PETA stages some of their videos, if not most of them.

    I could not be a vegetarian. I hate tofu, peanuts, and soy milk. I don't eat meat by itself usually, because of the amount of fat I have to cut off it usually (the texture of fat makes me gag, ugh), but I enjoy my foods that have meat in them. Soy milk is the grossest thing I have come across next to tofu. I use Lactaid whenever possible because I'm lactose intolerant, but I like to get my calcium the good old-fashioned way... by eating dairy. I take my four lactase pills for at least one meal every day for something tasty. Much better than calcium supplements.. egh.

  • ScarletMoth@xanga

    thanks for writing this, it was good.  I agree on the grossness- I became a vegetarian a year ago and without really "meaning" to ended up cutting out milk as well (I used to drink a LOT).   And the idea of milk now just plain grosses me out.   You could buy me a cow, milk it right in front of me, show me that the cow is not abused at all and the milk is "clean" of hormones and shit and I still would not drink it.   But anyways...

    it's weird but meat eaters seem to feel more uncomfortable about me not eating meat than I am uncomfortable about them eating meat.   Like i really don't care if people are eating meat around me.   I accept that it happens and I'm not going to go hunting down an all vegetarian group of friends or something like that.   But meat eaters will always catch themselves; like they won't want to say things around me like "Hey it's the mama and the baby chicken!" when we were at denny's and someone had chicken fingers and another person had an egg.   And I'm always like "What?   Look, I really don't care."   Or relatives will arrange meals around me when I'm at their house and I'm like "seriously, it's okay if you have steak one night!   I don't care!   There's always a lot of other things I can eat."   It's like everyone is afraid of offending me XD

  • ScarletMoth@xanga

    @lovesporks@xanga - what makes eating a dog worse than eating a cow?  think about it ;)
    (pigs are actually smarter than dogs... it's really only our cultural perceptions and nothing biological about the dog or any other animal that make it "less acceptable" to eat)
    so really, if you're eating steak, it IS like you're eating a dog

    and I don't think there's necessarily anything "wrong" about that, but maybe you should consider that the next time somebody critiques your dinner haha

  • tubbz87@datingish

    forgive me for sounding ignorant but I just have a question.. how do vegetarians/vegans make up for the lack of protein? I've been wondering about that for a while.

  • MyFreedomWings@xanga

    I'm omnivorous. I eat mostly fruit and vegetables and accent my diet with meat and dairy. This is not a purposeful thing, this is naturally where I've acclimated. I've been told I'm TOO healthy for my low blood pressure, lol.


    I'm not uncomfortable eating around vegetarians, because most vegetarians are not uncomfortable eating around me.


    As for where my food comes from, I'm big into the local food movement...which, being naturally small and non-corporate tends to be organic and much more old fashioned (which tends to be better for my food). I admit, the idea of drinking milk from other mother animals...especially now that I'm older, is rather gross to visualize, but it's not an image that stays with me to bother me that much. Probably helps that I mysteriously feel ill when I don't get milk very often.
     Also, since I've grown up on farms, and am farming this year...you can't tell me I'm naive about the process of where our food comes from. I'm also a big animal lover...so it's not that I view animals as lower than us either, especially considering I'm pagan. *shrugs*


    You might be surprised about some of the places veggies and fruit come from...how they get to the grocery stores...in truth.


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