Saturday, 16 May 2009

  • Making Fun of Fat Chicks - The New Racism?




    Back in my playground days, there was a lot of offensive humor going around. Garbage Pail Kids, anyone? (Although mine was kind of awesome. Seriously.) But one brand I remember in particular was the "Yo Mama" jokes.

    They all start with the phrase "yo mama" and then finish with something highly derogatory about the sacrificing woman who had birthed the listener. Some began "Yo mama so ugly..." or "Yo mama so stupid..." But most of them started with "Yo mama so fat..."

    "... she sat on a rainbow and skittles came out!"
    "... they had to take her year book picture with an aerial camera!"
    "... she has her own zip code!" (Thanks Weird Al for being an 8th grader in perpetuity!)
    "... she sat on a quarter and a booger popped out of George Washington's nose!"

    And those are just the ones that I can recall off the top of my head. Seriously, even after all these years they came back to me like that. No google. Just to test my theory out, I asked my husband if he remembered any off the top of his head. Without pausing, he spouted off at least five ending with this one:

    "Yo mama so fat she can't wear gray to the beach 'cause of the harpoonin'!"

    And do you know what I did? Me? The girl who is so painfully aware of the hurt that a joke can cause that she has cried over many a fairly innocuous rib? I giggled. Sure, part of it had to do with the hilarious tone of voice my husband used ("harPOOnin'"!!) but most of it was just reflexive. I wasn't thinking of my own mother or of myself as a mother or of any mother. And yet, it's a terribly offensive joke.

    What if I had made the joke about blacks? Or Jews? Certainly then there would be less laughing. For the past few decades while our society has grown progressively more accepting of different nationalities, skin colors, religions and even sexual orientations we have increased in our bigotry of "fat people." I've even listened to people defend their discriminatory mindset by saying "Well people can't control what color they are but they can sure choose not to supersize at the drive thru!" True. But people can also control when their mouths move and spewing hate at any group - even if it's "just a joke"- isn't okay.

    I have a very good friend who is quite overweight who routinely makes these kinds of jokes about himself. He laughs. Others laugh. It's kind of terrible to watch, especially because he is freaking hilarious. I asked him about it once and he said that he deserves the self-inflicted ridicule because he let himself go. That and he'd rather laugh with people than have them laughing at him. This has got to stop. We've got to start seeing people as more than what they look like on the outside - any part of it. We are so much more than our pant size!

    But how to "sell" that to your average humor-loving person? Australia recently asked its citizenry this very question and the ad some of them came up with is quite powerful in my opinion. It's highly offensive. Truly, unless you are some kind of social idiot you will cringe. Hard. But it makes the point in a very effective manner. Check it out (no profanities - at least no American ones - but still probably NSFW):



    Has fat discrimination become the new hate speech? What did you think of this ad - does it sink to "their level" or is it effective? How do you put a stop to this in your own life? And - anyone else laugh at the Yo mama jokes? (Be honest!)

    For a more in-depth analysis of the ad and the ensuing televised debate in Australia, check out Jezebel.com's coverage.

    This is a guest blog written by Charlotte Anderson, from thegreatfitnessexperiment.blogspot.com

Comments (124)

  • Dare2BDiferentt@xanga

    Making fun of fat people is WRONG.


    Unless you're fat too, then it's cool.

  • laytexduckie@xanga

    I don't think it grew, but I figure that it hasn't diminished either. Are you going to stop people from making jokes about any person in general? No, not in a million years. But, the best to humor is if you obviously sell it as a joke.

    "If you can't learn to laugh at yourself, then you will never be able to laugh at anything."

  • HelloCarlile@xanga

    It's not new. It's always been around.

  • Shinbi_Belldandy@xanga

    I dont like fat jokes. I hate how people assume people who are overweight (or "not the ideal size") are lazy, have a lack of will power & what not. There are disorders out there that affect weight & body shape is often partly determined by genetics. If you heard someone has a slow thyroid would you laugh at that person's disorder? Probably not. But if you see someone who is overweight & you laugh, how do you know they dont have that? I'm not trying to be an advocate but I think people should consider the other person's feelings before making a joke.


    Yes I will admit there are some people that overeat but it's not right to say all people who are just eat too much.

  • C1NDY_j@xanga

    I don't know about anyone else but it's been like that since I was on the playgrounds. *shrug*

  • justXforXyou_beautiful@xanga

    I think people have always made fun of overweight people but no, it's not okay, at all. One of the lowest blows you could do to someone to ruin their self esteem. Believe me, I've definitely been on the receiving end of it when I used to be like 160 pounds.

    Now I'm down to 125-130, and I get received by people a lot better than I did 30 pounds ago. Nothing about me has changed except my weight. It's sickening.
  • wolvenchic@xanga

    not ok, but I point out my flaws and laugh at them, even if it is my gut lol

  • Kristenmomof3@xanga

    ouch....

    I think it is sad

  • IamKelleyK@xanga

    I think it's ironic that we're the fatest nation in the world and yet we make fun of fat people.  Sad.

  • INEEDHELPTOOYOUKNOW@xanga
    FAT CHICKS? YOU MEAN OVERWEIGHT FEMALES. THAT'S MEAN RIGHT THERE.
  • s_h_a_sha@xanga
  • C_UNIT42@xanga

    i must be a terrible person cuz i just laughed my ass off when i heard those jokes.

  • lovechartreuse@xanga

    I'm tiny & I still hate fat jokes.
    But its been around forever now. 

  • agerigsickles@xanga

    When I was in 5th grade I wasn't even fat, but some guys decided to call me wide load. It has scarred me and I'm 26! I know that they were just "kids" but I have learned that words really do hurt. Fat jokes aren't funny, they just plain hurt. 

  • TheHiddenRose86@xanga

    Ugh..I think it hurts when people make fun of fat people. It's rude and completely insensitive. But it happens anyways...what can we do about it?

  • sansanx@xanga

    everyone knows it's not okay and that it's hurtful and wrong but people still do it anyways becasue it's FUNNY. As bad as it sounds, as long as something is FUNNY, people will assume that it's alright because it's JUST A JOKE. If you can't take it, then go away. That's just how we are as the human race. We are mean, we like to laugh at things that aren't meant to be laughed at *like people getting hurt - some people find that to be extremely funny*, we as humans discriminate even though it's wrong, we judge, we hate, we do everything that isn't suppose to be done! I guess people just need to brush off their shoulders and keep on walking instead of dwelling on it.

  • anonymous

    some fat chicks seem like the innocent victim, when they are also making fun of skinny chicks. I'm skinny have been made fun of by chicks bigger than me and I didn't provoke them. they used to call me chopstick legs lol I think they are bitter and jealous and want to point their insecurities towards anybody smaller than them. or they might say that just because they are fat doesn't mean that they aren't healthy or they'd rather be curvy and a real woman than a skinny twig. so fat chicks can be meanies, too lol at least I'm not picked last at dodgeball games do unto others lol

  • asdfghjkieu@xanga

    idk. but i hate it when fat ppl call me a "skinny bitch"
    1. i'm not skinny
    2. it's not my fault you're fat.

  • xSayakax@xanga

    Jokes like that is rude, insensitive and absolutely mean.  Sure when you crack the joke, you get a few laughs with your friends, but what happens to the girl/guy being made fun of?  Kids can be mean and I know it, but jokes are not jokes anymore when feelings are hurt.  I did not find any of the jokes on ur list funny (and I didn't get the harpoonin one either).  Making fun of people is not right, but if it's between friends and no one gets hurt, it's their choice if they decide to joke with each other that way.  There's a fine line between jokes being hurtful or just plain fun.

  • psykoaznballa@xanga

    Yo momma's so fat, that when she jump fo joy... oh just kidding I guess this isn't the right place for that.

  • spanz@xanga

    Ehhhh it's always been around.
    I don't really like people making fun of others because of their weight or whatever.. just leave em alone, its not like they go around saying how skinny or whatever yu are.

  • Not_a_real_site@xanga

    @C_UNIT42@xanga - lol, me too.

    Whine, whine, complain, complain.  Like, OMFG, I'm soooo offended.  As someone else said, if one can't laugh at themself then their life is going to suck.  Ok, I paraphrased a bit.  People are so over-senisitive these days.  When will it end? 

    You know what's worse than poking a bit of fun.  Talking shit about them behind their back.  Also, just because one didn't make the joke, doesn't mean they, or the people around them, aren't thinking it.  That's just as bigoted and hateful as saying it.  Except it gives them the appearance they aren't. So go ahead and add fake and deceitful to bigoted and hateful.

  • xx_ng_xx@xanga

    erp, but telling somebody anorexic is also sad. 

  • Bobby@xanga

    Its never nice to make fun of people.


    But unlike race, weight is something within control.
    If it bothers them, they can do something about it. There are hundreds of options.

    But if you're black, theres really nothing you can do (unless you pull a Michael Jackson but that will just make you the butt of mroe jokes...).

  • Neurotically_Mine@xanga

    yeah fat jokes are only funny when there is no fat people listening to it..

    bleh. but we should try at least to be a bit nicer. appearances are not everything.

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