Sunday, 09 August 2009

  • Had Gastric Bypass and Still "Failed"


    I wanted to touch base on a very sensitive subject that I've not heard anyone talk about here. I had the gastric bypass (malabsorption surgery). Many hold a negative opinion of it as "cheating" or "a quick fix" for those who don't "have the will power to lose weight." Truth is, you give up every kind of food you love and never get it back. That has a HUGE life altering effect. Most people don't realize those who choose to get it are agreeing to NEVER be able to eat the foods they probably love again and have to realize that this is the LAST chance they have to lose weight. They tell you if you fail this, you have no other real options to lose weight. That is desperation and commitment in my opinion and is hardly cheating or an easy way out. That being said, this is my story. 

    I lost 100lbs in 7 months, followed the diet to a "T" and  thus, looked great, felt great, & was doing great. That month I got married. At that point I had been told I was unable to have kids, so we didn't use any form of protection. I got pregnant (yay!) I called my surgeon and got chewed out and was then told to stop eating the bypass diet and follow the standard pregnancy diet, to be found at the WIC office. So, I went from eating extremely low calories (less than 1,000 a day),  no carbs at all to eating 2 boxes of cereal a month, lots of milk (aka lots of fat I wasn't eating b4) and lots of time on my back. I swam my the entire pregnancy for non-strenuous activity and spent a lot of time forcing food down my throat to get all the calories in. I had to make myself eat all day long. My son is healthy and I'm proud of that. Unfortunately, I am now back to my original weight. I was 180 when I got pregnant, 210 when I had him, and now I am desperately trying to follow the bypass diet, but find myself hungry all day long as I trained myself to eat all day to get the calories in, as well as to eat carbs again. Over the last 2 years of my sons life, I have gained 30lbs. :( 

     I had the bypass because I was very sick. My diabetes was out of control Even fasting I was in the high 200's with insulin and pills. I have 2 sleeping disorders and several chronic pain disorders. My life was pain killers and muscle relaxers. So now, I'm a lot more healthy in how I eat, and my portions are way smaller than a regular person. I exercise as much as I can but need to get back to daily gym visits. It's hard with a 2 year old!  

    I was at a friends dad's house the other day. He knew me before the bypass. He hadn't seen me at all after the bypass, but knew I had it. He said, "Hey, you had the gastric bypass didn't you?" I responded yes,  he responds, "You know it didn't work, right?" So my question is this, What do you think of people who have had the gastric bypass and "failed?" 

Comments (26)

  • hiiiilaura@xanga

    My mom had it a year ago and lost 100+ pounds. I'm so proud of her !

  • angi1972@xanga

    My Mom has had the gastric bypass and kept 160lbs off for four years... I know that if I were strong enough to eat the way that she does I could lose weight. She did a complete sugar dump... the thing is I see her eat more now then she ever has, It's what she eats and how much and how often...


    I think it was EXTREMELY irrisponsible of your doctor to tell you to stop doing your diet... It seems that there could have been WAY healthier ways to make it through your pregnancy food eating wise I mean.


    Anyway. I am sorry that you gained all of your weight back... I am more sorry that it seems you feel you now have no othewr option to lose it again...

  • retardtm@xanga

    i knew a friend who had a gastric balloon fitted. she lost a lot of weight, but eventually, that "failed" when she was told that she needed it out. she put on more weight than she started.
    so what me and my other friends suggested was to get active and eat healthier, and do it in a group so that she wasn't alone, and knew that she had support from her family and friends.

    so, in a way, i think that having a gastric whatever is a waste of time, maybe money, if it fails.
    but nevertheless, it worked for a short while, and gave a head start i guess.

  • fairydragonstar@xanga

    I think some people that do it because they think it will be easier in then exercising and watching what you eat....the people I know that have had it still have health problems just different ones or the same ones...I personally, don't think the diet is a healthy one...I have a friend all she can eat for protein is cheese...and saturated fats are not healthy....

    DO I think a person failed when they gain weight back after they have the surgery...my answer is no....mostly because I think they try...but what you have to do is not normal

  • kieri126@xanga

    i mean yes there are those success stories and the people who really are committed like you but then again there are those people who really do see it as an easy way out and cheat and dont eat correctly and then complain.....


    I mean there are stories on TLC about how people have caved in and started eating the way they did and gained all their weight back.


    but def. congrats on the healthy baby and goodluck losing the weight you gaineddd


    at least you gained it for the health of your son and 30 pounds over 2 yrs is really not that badd

  • Murphy_Rants@xanga

    My mom was well over 400lbs when she had gastric bypass about 9 years ago. She lost over 200lbs quite quickly.


    She was suppose to be on this diet and all but nowadays she eats whatever she wants and eats about every two hours; she can't even digest any of it well. She is constantly plauged by the shits, bad gas, and crippling nausea...yet she doesn't take the hint that it is because of of her bypass and the way she is eating. She KNOWS it. I don't understand why she would eat something that hurt her so bad. Because it tastes good? I don't think it's worth it. I'm lactose intolerant...yeah, dairy taste good but the pain is not worth it. I know it's her decision to eat stuff that she knows damn well upsets her but it really does hurt my feelings.


    She is over 300lbs again and it makes me sad time to time...she was given a gift.


    Her diabetes is back and she is in constant pain.


    I've been overweight for most of my life as well due to asthma medication. ...I was told this year that I had sleep apena. I had it BAD. The way it made me was not any different than having narcolepsy. It didn't take me one minute to make the decision to lose weight and that meant saying good bye to my medicine. No more joking around. I'm almost apnea free now, but I'm not done losing weight either.  

  • Erika_Steele@xanga

    I think that people who fail at maintaining thier weight after a bypass are humans like anyone else.  I agree with the person that said it was irresponsible of your doctor to take you off your diet, there was a better way to increase your calories, but there is no use of dwelling on it now.  You'll get the weight back off, it will just take time and effort. 


    Congratulations on having a healthy baby.

  • cutesycharm@xanga

    A lot of people fail after bypass surgery because they don't teach you how to really eat. Its not healthy for a human to eat so few calories, and its really dangerous. I think lap-band (or the removable ones) are a better option because you can go back to a normal diet and exercise routine after the results you NEED a there.

  • poundsofflesh

    This is an interesting discussion.  The idea of failure is pretty remote right now, as I am just trying to get through the immediate post-surgery period.  The liquid diet, the vitamins, the getting in some exercise.  Right about now my progression to creamy soups, mashed potatoes, and scrambled eggs seems like the answer to a prayer!  That happens Thursday.  


    I started a blog here about my own process... I hope to connect with others on this issue.http://poundsofflesh.healthkicker.com/
  • helpingkill@xanga

    I think eating disorders are just as seriouse and real as alcoholism and drug addiction. I myself have been plagued with eating disorders all of my life. I'm either thinner than goal weight, or way above it. Right now I'm right at my goal weight. But the problem i have with my disorder is the mental obcession of my self image, and wondering of how others portray me. I realize that i'm not normal and never will be, but i'd rather be alittle hungry from time to time than be facing the fast food grave yard. Technically you did fail, but it would be easier than you think to get back on track. Think about those who have conquered cancer and other life threatening illnesses, makes things much easier.

  • NowAndForeverTonight@xanga

    Wow, that was a little harsh him to say that.


    Congrats on having a healthy little boy, that would be one of the best blessings in the world.


    I'm not real sure what to say, but I hope you can manage to get your weight down to where you and your doctor thinks it's the healthest. [hope that didnt come across as rude]

  • Ork58@xanga

    The key is in increasing the exercise. No, it is not easy with a 2 year old. If your gym doesn't offer child care so you can workout for an hour daily, you may have to hire a babysitter, or have your SO watch him while you work out. Swimming is an excellent exercise, especially if you are obese. Way easier on the joints. Incorporate exercise into your raily routine, take munchkin out in the stroller or rolling jogger, get in a daily walk/jog. RE-focus on your food intake. No, it won't be easy, but you HAVE to do this. If you continue down this path, either your diabetes will ruin your body totally, or your eating will kill you. You owe it to your son to stay healthy enough to at least get  him through college. So for at least the next 18-20 years, you have to focus on staying healthy for him, (and for your husband) no matter how difficult.


    My friend also had gastric bypass. She developed an infection from the original surgery and damn near killed her. She was about 5'0" and was 400 lbs. She could barely waddle around. After weeks in the hospital with the infection/adjusting to the bypass, she regained enough strength to function. She lost about 240 lbs. She had to have plastic surgery to remove the excess skin, flab, etc. She basically is now a sick thin person. She can't eat normally, never will. Her eyes are sunken in, she had a lot of damage to her teeth, she went from an apple to a pear, and still carries extra junk in her trunk. But she can at least walk around and function, is now wokring full time, etc. And she is alive to see her son graduate college and begin his career.


    You are most likely younger than her, that is an advantage, that perhaps your body will recover better than hers did. She was in her mid 40's when she had the surgery.


    I wish you luck. Your situation is hell, no other way to describe it. Constant battle, all day every day. Unless you have been close to someone with an eating disorder, you have no idea how insidious they are.

  • dandymandie@xanga

    The problem with GBS is that there is no real therapies offered once the surgery is done...this is definitely needed..

  • evyluvsu@xanga

    you didn't fail! you cant see it like that!
    Would you choose to be lighter on the scales and have a baby boy not on the strong healthy side?

    congrats on the lil bundle of joy =D
    if you see yourself as a failure..  in my opinion... it'll just be harder to get back... perhaps you should see htings a lil more positive.. even view your son as a motivator towards loosing weight again...

    I just read this article done by Times magazine.. and it says exercise actually makes you fatter... not that exercise itself but the psychology that we can eat more if we exercise.... and i'm trying to loose a bit of my tummy bulge~ I find it quite helpful to eat slower and wash everything down i eat with water... that also helps.. n every day, i eat a lil less than the day before... just a tiny bit.... so i don feel so hungry.....

    i hope my way helps u a lil.. and be healthy for your son... body image isn't important.. just health....

  • just__one__me@xanga

    @Murphy_Rants@xanga - Wait, asthma medications caused you to gain weight? What ones are/were you on?

    Congrats on the weight loss! You're lucky in that you could lose weight to mostly get rid of sleep apnea. I've never been overweight, but I have pretty bad sleep apnea and have to use a CPAP every night.

  • Murphy_Rants@xanga

    @just__one__me@xanga - There are lots of enhalers that have steroids in them...so they make me eat, eat, eat. I've also been on and off steroids for chronic swimmer's ear. I am an active person and when not on steroids, a very heatly eater...but if I have to puff on a steroid enhaler I want to eat the legs off the table.


    Thanks. Some days I'm still in my "narcoleptic" haze...but nothing like before. No one deserves to sleep like that. Even though I never had one, I'm thankful for devices like CPAP.

  • DarcKleer@xanga

    @dandymandie@xanga - I definitely agree.

    I wouldn't say you failed b/c it's not like you didn't follow the diet plan. You did, you lost the weight and then got pregnant. The doctor shouldn't have talked to you that way, especially after being told you couldn't get pregnant and then all of a sudden you are blessed with a child.  I think it's great that you were able to get pregnant and have a healthy baby. Congrats!
    My friend's step mom got the lap band and was put on a liquid diet immediately after the surgery. She didn't follow it, ate whatever she wanted and kept getting violently ill. It took her forever to start losing weight. The doctors give these diets for a reason.

  • Chaotic_Libra@xanga

    I have always seen gastric bypass as an quick fix because the diet and exercise management that the person has to maintain after the surgery, could have done to use that before the surgery. I do agree with the morbidly and super obese patients getting the surgery for critical life or death situations...critical emergencies. My friend's aunt had the surgery, didn't change old habits, and gained the weight back. And I have heard of many cases where the stomach just stretched back to post-surgery size. Then there is the whole psychological aspect especially with emotional eaters.

  • just__one__me@xanga

    @Murphy_Rants@xanga - Hmm, I've never had that experience with any of my steroid inhalers. I guess people just react differently to them.

    Yeah, I'm really thankful for my CPAP. Without it I barely feel like I get any sleep at all.

  • care@momaroo

    If you are healthier, you did not fail.


    Try going back the very restrictive, new part of the diet for a week. And make sure you are getting enough protien. Protien is SUPER important in weight loss.


    My husband had the lap band and I never realized how much work it would be until we got close to his surgery date. If you live in my house, you are on HIS diet. There's no seperate cooking or anything. We are in it together.


    We all have a healthier relationship with food. My husband has had remarkable success and even surprised his doctor with the amount of weight he's lost. I've lost weight, too. The secret is cutting out 99% of processed food. We STILL get to eat the things we love, we just eat healthier versions.


    Once upon a time, if it was food, it was nutritious. We've gone back to basics where there are no empty calories. Food is about tasty fuel for our bodies. Good for you food doesn't have to taste bad... actually we are finding that its delicious.  


  • GodsBelovedAng@xanga

    @poundsofflesh - One thing I found was if you can get your OB/GYN to assign them that the prenatal vitamins "primacare" (the two pill dose) Is EXELLENT> You don't have to worry about multiple vitamins and for about $55 a month your hari will grow your skin will look great and your blood vitamin levels will be perfect! I loved them! I also tried eating protein powder mixed in peanut butter and dipping grapes or apples in it. I couldn't eat without drinking water so I started eating grapes and it did wonders! Good luck! 

  • GodsBelovedAng@xanga

    @just__one__me@xanga - I actually was on a drug called theodor sprinkle as a kid. It was a steroid based athsma drug and it made me gain weight like crazy. I was so think when I was a child that they thought I would die. My mom was super sick and died on the table when she was going through c-section with me. But because of drugs, alcohol, and sickness, I wasn't a very healthy baby. SO when they took me off the steroid my body went through withdrawl and I gained more weight! It's  nuts! My whole family has huge weight problems too. 

    I am going back to the liquid diet. I'm actually doing the Makers Diet Lemonade Cleanse for 2 weeks. It's an all lemonade diet where the lemonade is made with pure grade A maple syrup, with fresh lemon juice, cyanne pepper, and water. I've been on it before and I had no problem with dumping so I'm gonna do it for the first week cleanse and then a week to cut my stomach back to shape. I am praying it helps me. I'm so desperate to lose this weight! 

    Thanks for all the encouragement!
  • jazziegal97@xanga

    I don't think you failed....if you failed you would have attempted to not follow the bypass diet and your body would have let you know because you would have gotten sick. I think over the course of a few years (if you aren't careful) you can slowly strecth your stomach out tot he point of being able to eat larger portions again, but that's highly unlikely. In your case, you were having a baby, you needed to gain weight for your son to be healthy.


    My mom had the bypass done a few years back...and I have to admit that upon hearing she was having this done I wasn't the most supportive person in the world. I was just like "that seems a bit extreme.". I kind of felt like she had "given up" until I realized how bad her health was (she had all of the same problems you had and then some), when I realized that (I wasn't around much because I was away at college) I understand. Now several years later she's a lot healthier and happier. She's maintained her weight (from what I can tell) and she exercises regularly.


    Good luck with everything....I'm sure you'll eventually be where you want to be.

  • Angelsdelight@xanga

    I am over 300 lbs. I have thought about doing the gastric bypass but I am not in very poor health. I can't seem to get pass 270 lbs. Maybe I need just to go to a dietician and try to lose weight that way. I am not interested in cutting myself unnecessarily. I would hate to die from complication of something I wanted but didn't need. Yes,my life would change if I was slimmer but I recognize that I need to do more work on the inside than on the outside. I have more of a problem with loving myself than anything else. I guess I will reconsider it once I have gone through all of my options.


    Whoever posted this,I thank you for making me wake up and realize that I have to make a choice to live differently no matter whether I have the surgery or not. They tell you to start making changes now. I think I can go and get counseling about it and then way my options..

  • anonymous

    People don't fail- systems fail.

    The reason gastric bypass fails- is because it doesn't get to the ROOT of the problem- it merely covers symptoms.  The root of the problem is an addiction to food.  People eat food to fill some void they feel inside- it's the same with an addiction to alcohol or drugs or gambling.. 

    It's the same reason why many people say "diets and exercise didn't work"... it's because they weren't dealing with the emotional problems at the root of the ADDICTION.

    As a smoker you think about smoking all day- when are you going to smoke next- where are you going to smoke if you're going away and they have smoking bans etc.....   as a food addict- you think the same- always wondering what you're going to eat next... where you're going to get it from.. etc.. etc...

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