this is pretty harsh, but i have to say i agree.

i know so many large people who do nothing but make excuses for their weight, and on top of that, will sit around on their asses and complain that they wish they were smaller, and it's just like "get off your ass and DO something!" (the excuses "low metabolism" and "gland problems" will only get you so far, sorry.) and this view that obesity is normal and okay is just stupid, it's not normal and it's not okay, just like being extremely underweight is not normal or okay. and the girls on more to love are definitely not normal-size, healthy girls.

Agreed.

In Korea you'd be fat at 127.

Some people are naturally at 130 or 140 as a normal weight and have a hard time going lower. You also don't know why some people are the way they are. You can't tell someone with a bad knee or back injury to lose weight, because working out too much is bad for them.

Even on a diet, someone with this injury will have a hard time losing weight with just a diet and the max exercise that their doctors allow.

@soyeahthatswhathappened@xanga - Some people really do have higher metabolisms. I see people who are 98 pounds, never work out, literally eat 4x the amount of food I do (and unhealthy food on top of that) and still rock a size 0. Is it really fair for these people to judge fat people when their lifestyles are the same?

on the one hand I really do agree but on the other...

The fact is, many people aren't a size 2 but that doesn't mean they aren't normal. I think the deluge of new tv programming geared towards 'plus-sized' people is more of an attempt to negate the negative effects of only seeing stick-thin people on tv. While the networks shouldn't be promoting obesity or an unhealthy lifestyle, the truth is some girls won't ever be a size 0 unless they resort to unhealthy (read: eating disorder) means. I have been dieting as long as I can remember but it would be unrealistic for me to take on a size-0 television icon as my role model. So maybe there shouldn't be any weight factor at all in these TV shows.
The fact is, I work out every day and eat healthily. Why should my weight be scrutinized by anybody? Sure, I'm 5'6 and more than 150 pounds. I'm working on that. But my doctor says that my body fat percentage is well within normal range, if not on the lower end of the scale. I have to wonder if it isn't posts like this which make it necessary for people like me to excuse my weight. That isn't an attack, I swear. I thoroughly enjoyed this post and, for the most part, agree with the argument. It's just difficult to see why the idea of normal can't just be thrown out and replaced with healthy. 

Ouch, you're a meanie I think you're being a bit harsh here.....

I think the term "over weight" is being used in the wrong context. For example I may be a small amount of pounds over the technical "weight" that I am supposed to be for my height, but that's not taking into consideration bone structure size AND muscle weight. Sometimes other factors really do matter and its not just you're thin and healthy or you're over weight and fat. It just seems like you are being too harsh about it, and no offense but that is one of the reasons the whole "real girl" thing started in the first place. All people are doing is putting negative energy out there, which in turn does not help people, it just makes the situation worse and makes you look like a cruel person. We just need to live and let live, what others do with their life and their body is no one elses business. 

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I've said this so many times. Even worse, when I went to the doctor last year because I was having breathing problems and asked if my weight was a factor, he said "It could be, but don't worry about it, you're average sized. You could probably lose about 10 or 15 pounds."
I decided to see a nutritionist because I've never had healthy eating habits. I either ate emotionally or starved because I didn't know what else to do. Not only was my weight affecting my health, I had pre-diabetes, high blood pressure, and my asthma as worsened by pressure on my lungs. I was only 19 years old. I was over 30 pounds heavier than I should have been and almost 60 pounds from my ideal weight for my age/size. My own doctor told me that I was average. Average doesn't equal healthy anymore, and it's sad. Thankfully I have lose that 60 pounds. Sadly, I constantly get crap from people saying I don't eat enough, and I look unhealthily thin. I'm 20 years old, 5'5" and 130 pounds. I'm a size 6 in juniors. Since when is that emaciated? Since when is that even skinny?
I see nothing wrong with being bigger and healthy. I know people larger than I am that are in better shape and better health than I can even hope to be, but there is a difference between being big and being fat, and people don't understand that anymore. What started out as a "Real Women Have Curves" movement turned into the "It's Okay to Be Obese" movement. There is nothing wrong with advocating not being thin, but being pro-obesity is on the same level as being "pro-ana" to me.
Diabetes runs heavily in my family. I have never in my life heard that as an excuse to not lose weight. It's always been a motivator to help prolong the years you have left without having to go on shots and a horrible diet.
If you really don't have the time to exercise or are disabled and can't, you adjust your diet accordingly. My mother has a near crippling back injury, and she needs to lose about 20 pounds to be able to have her diabetes controlled. She's 5'2" and 150 pounds. She's going to a specialist in a few days to find out the best way to do that, and to find out exercises that she can do without hurting herself. Everyone tells her she's crazy because she's not obese. She said that she's overweight, and that 20 pounds can easily become 50 if she doesn't change her lifestyle. The amount of money on seeing a specialist and getting healthier food is about the same as buying new clothes every few months because your old ones are too tight.
Sorry for the rant. This has been something that's bothered me for years, even when I was obese. It pissed me off to know end when people told me not to lose weight because I was beautiful. Who cares if you're beautiful if you're unhealthy?

When my ribs are poking out I'm not a size 2.  I think real women to me are size 8-12ish.  Mostly I expect a real woman to look healthy and have some curves.  I don't think it's healthy to think women should be size 2 or 22.  Most of the "plus size" models are just normal healthy women.  I think that a lot of the eating disorders we see in our teenage girls happen because the size 2 model body is promoted as normal.  Many women are not even capable of getting that skinny.

Normal doesn't mean healthy --normal simply means whatever is most common.  So by that definition, a size 2 might not be normal.

While I agree that it's not healthy to think that "I don't have to exercise even if I am overweight, it's normal!", I would also caution you against automatically considering all overweight individuals as "unhealthy".  While obesity is definitely unhealthy, it is very possible for an overweight but active individual to be much healthier than someone who is thin and sedentary.  Basically, you can't judge lifestyles/health based solely on appearance (unless they're morbidly obese or morbidly underweight, then it's pretty difficult to argue that there's anything healthy about that).

@fugita@xanga - That's sweet. I did it for me, too. Kudos on being vegan. I don't have the willpower for that. I have cut back a lot on meat though. I think I kind of understood the OP because I feel that way a lot. I have gotten so much negativity lately from losing weight. While I've had issues with disordered eating in the past, I've overcome that. I know that I'm not underweight or overweight. It makes me sad that so many people are pushing out unhealthy eating habits everywhere. Telling someone that's okay to be overweight is no different to me than telling someone it's okay to throw up after you eat. Both of those are illnesses and habits that need to be corrected.
My husband says the best part of my weight loss is that he can pick me up when I'm being stubborn now. Lol. I can also jog. I've never been able to jog in my life!

I don't think you're being harsh at all. I really feel like the media offers two extremes about what is real and nothing in between. Either the size 0 girls are real, and that is true beauty, or the women with curves are real.

Funny, I thought we were all real.