Sunday, 11 March 2012

  • Do Your Clothes Wear You?



    There used to be a time when, if your clothes began to get tight, your response would be to work out and diet your way back into them. But nowadays, it seems that people are just opting for the much easier choice of buying bigger clothes. It's so much easier to throw down some cash for a larger pair of jeans than it is to devote the time and effort to go on the treadmill or cut out the bacon.

    This is apparent with the backlash over Levi's Curve ID jean ads.
     

    Pro-Fatty activists have accused these models of not being fat enough and are demanding that Levi stop using models with "toothpick legs."

    First of all, if you don't like people calling you a "fatty," what gives you the right to talk down on these models? These are their natural bodies and they probably worked very hard to maintain them. Is it just easier to eat a Twinkie and hate on others by calling them "toothpicks" or accusing them of being anorexic? Because you're overweight, you feel you have the privilege of making thin girls feel like crap?

    To me, showing overweight (or even underweight) models is akin to having ads for cigarettes. Obesity is a serious health issue and should not be embraced or celebrated. We should not cave to the Pro-Fatty agenda and make people think it's okay to be so rotund. They want to make America fatter and I will not stand for that! From now on, we should have a more accurate scale of thin => curvy => planetary.

    And if your clothes are getting tight around the edges, maybe you should start doing something about it. After all, do you wear your clothes, or do your clothes wear you?

Comments (29)

  • a__m__p__m@xanga

    I prefer American Apparel models because I'm sick of only seeing rail thin girls modeling the clothes I'd like to buy. Maybe I want to see those jeans on a size 4 or 6? Does it always have to be 0?


    Obesity shouldn't be celebrated, which is why you don't see ads with obese people in them. But showing ads only with extremely thin girls is like celebrating anorexia, too. How about throwing some averages sizes in there?
  • writemyheartt@xanga

    LOL you're seriously just favoring super skinny girls over girls who have a bit of meat. i agree though overweight girls shouldn't make thin girls feel like crap. 


    however, super skinny girls shouldn't be advertised. 
    i think size 4 is a good size to advertise, but 0 is not a size. 
  • haltija@xanga

    These are their natural bodies and they probably worked very hard to maintain them.

    no.
     you don't have to work hard to maintain your "natural figure". the whole definition of your natural figure is the one that your body favors without manipulation of diet and exercise.

  • breakingthepath@xanga

    I hope for the author's sake they're just being a troll. I wouldn't wish the horrors of an eating disorder on my worst enemy and this article is just sad.

    Please trigger tag the title - getting rec'ed by someone with the handle 'worthlessuntilweightless' says something.

  • TheFashionableEconomist@xanga
  • P0RCELA1N_D0LL@xanga

    the opposite of "toothpick legs" would be "tree trunk legs." Levis and other designers can use whatever type of models that they want. why don't these complainers just buy clothes from designers that cater to their bigger size or appeals to them more? that's like demanding lane bryant to use toothpick legged models than plus sized, which they are known for. if the designer is known to use thin models, then most likely they won't change their original appeal for "pro-fattys" this is a case of pick on someone their own size:D

  • under_the_carpet@xanga

    No one talks down the models, they talk down the company for choosing the wrong employees.
    The ad is just slightly hypocritic if they say "all shapes and sizes" and display three people of very similiar sizes.

    That being said I think the clothes aren't designed for fat people but people with different proportions, so that you don't have to buy jeans that are tight in the butt but loose in the legs or the other way around, which can happen at every size. As far as I'm concerned each model exists in different sizes.

  • MomWithoutaMinivan@xanga

    I was at walmart last night and saw 3 different girls that had great bodies. Man oh man, the looks of envy they all got from all the women they passed. I'm overweight (Though I usually feel skinny when I make my walmart trips). Not proud of it, just striving for a healthy pregnancy and to get to a healthy weight postpartum. While I don't agree that America has a pro-fatty agenda, I do think that the increased laziness to do anything about weight gain, and unwillingness to change the way we eat has turned into hate for the healthy chicks. I hate the term BBW (big beautiful woman) and refuse to apply it to myself. I see all kinds of obese women playing the BBW or "curvy" card. If you really dug beyond their pride though, you'd see they'd love to be thin. 

  • FallenSafely@xanga

    Well I'm assuming this is a curvy girls modeling, which you neglected to add, by the background "every rainbow has a curve". So yes curvy usually means slightly bigger girls. These are average size girls. The one in the front does have toothpick legs. No need to scream

  • caroliiineee@xanga

    Wait, is that the ad? I wouldn't say they have toothpick legs. But maybe that's because I have a lot of friends who REALLY have toothpick legs. 

  • x_19@xanga

    So... I guess I'm a fatty then because I have actual thighs?


    The point people are trying to make is that very few people actually have stick thin legs like those models and they're selling the pants as "curve fitting" when clearly these ladies don't have curves....

  • blonde_apocalypse@xanga

    Ah.  This loaded before the author became apparent.  Now that I see it's you, it makes more sense.  The way these size 000 models maintain their weight is through starvation, vomiting and dangerous drugs.  No adult, six foot tall woman weighs 72 pounds "naturally" or through "working hard."

  • MommyMarty22@xanga

    Actually curvy does not mean bigger as in overweight... Curvy means a curvy shape. Not all flat. Curvy hips, breast's, bottom. You can still be toned and still have killer curves. 

    You can be considered curvy and have skinny legs and arms... You can be curvy by having large legs and bottom with a small upper body... You can have skinny legs no hips with larger arms and shoulders with a big bust and still be considered curvy.You don't have to be a damn amazon to have curves and you don't have to be overweight to be curvy...

    People need to stop associating curvy body types with just weight alone...

    I agree we shouldn't promote being over weight and gluttonous but just because you have curves doesn't make you either of those.

  • Music_Is_Me_123@xanga

    @writemyheartt@xanga - Zero isn't a size?  I'm 19 and I'm a zero.  I've never had an eating disorder, I don't eat super healthy, nor do I work out very often.  Its my natural size.  I've been trying to gain weight because I was sick of being called "too skinny" by people like you.  I'm not tall enough to be a model, but if I was your saying I shouldn't be because I'm too thin?  That's just as hypocritical.  Zero is a size.  It's my size.  Thank God the fashion industry doesn't think like you or I'd be spending tons of money getting jeans altered to fit me.

  • enoughtodiefor@xanga

    @writemyheartt@xanga - zero most definitely IS a size. I was a zero before my baby, and I wasn't even that skinny. My stomach was not flat, I didn't have a slim build, I just had narrow hips and was a zero.

  • flying_luminescent_ceilingtile@xanga

    Lawl u jelly? You've taken a narrow minded approach to your argument that has been well opposed by other commenters. I'll say it too: zero is a size, whether it means my pants size at Express is 00 and everywhere else I'm a 3, or whether, like the other girls above, I'm a 0 everywhere. It's a number attached to the circumference of my waist/hips that has been standardized to make shopping easy. "Curvy" fit jeans doesn't translate to "all fat asses buy these jeans." Instead, curvy fit jeans are meant to give differently proportioned gals a jean alternative that may fit their different shapes better. Some girls have larger thighs, some have larger butts, some have shorter legs, etc. It's shallow to say that all fat girls buy these jeans, because curvy doesn't equal fat. And if you've ever shopped for jeans, you should know that not every size 7 is going to fit your body the same. 

  • Luv_is_infinite@xanga

    I'm a 0 or 1 and I don't have to work to maintain it. THAT is natural. But having to maintain your body size by restricting diet and exercising isn't exactly maintaining "natural" body size. That's having to work toward it, and it's just the same as overeating. 

    And since I rarely stray away from my natural body size, my clothes don't wear me. I wear it. If it feels a little tight, then it's probably just a little issue with the washing/drying machine. Those darn things always try to stretch/shrink my cute outfits!!! >.<
  • TiredSoVeryTired@xanga

    It's easy to go on and on about naturally being a size 0 when you are younger than 25.  But as we age we naturally carry around a bit more weight and our metabolism slows slightly.  I highly doubt those models are just "naturally thin".  Yes, it is possible but it is more likely they only eat tissue.  The point is not that any clothing uses size 0 models but that they ONLY use size 0 models.  It's an insult to everyone whether we are a size 4 or 8 or 10, or 12 or 14.  I'm a size 4 and I think it's quite silly to only use super skinny people in a world where eating disorders are killing people.  

  • xOne_twentyX@xanga

    No extreme is good, at all. Neither underweight / overweight should be celebrated, both could lead to eating disorders and health problems. I do agree with you that if your clothes aren't fitting as supposed, then do something about it like eating healthy and exercising instead of spending the money on bigger clothes which is a synonym of bigger problems to your wallet. Being overweight and obese is expensive, clothes are more expensive and you make doctors richer as obesity causes a lot more and different kind of diseases, and all that could be prevented by having healthy habits. 

  • Movere@xanga

    Finally, someone who gets it. Yeah we shouldn't have hella thin models or hella fat models to advertise anorexia or obesity. But fat girls need to stop hating on skinny ones. I'm sure if one of those girls talking about toothipick legs saw me, they'd say the same thing. And this IS my natural figure. I try very hard NOT to be too skinny but it doesn't always work. So where do they get the right to start talking shit about my body, just assuming I'm anorexic? B***h, it's called a fast metabolism. Not everyone loves food to death the way you all do. And " a little meat" on your bones ISN'T fat, it's actually skeletal muscle which I bet you have just about the same amount I do, it's just my body doesn't have pounds of fat layered on top to make me look like a twinkie. Do I love my super thin body? Not always, and you need to respect that. 

  • passionate_kisses579@xanga

    Ok, so they want the models to be thin, but then diss them for being too thin? Jeez. How about being a healthy weight?What happened to that? 

  • Pollypinks@xanga

    If you are a natural 0, then fine.  If you are a natural 12, like me, that's fine too.  What gets me are all the women now who wear clothes smaller than they are, with fat rolls exposed below the waistline.  Pants skin tight so they can hardly move.  What gives?  Wear something that fits for heaven's sake.

  • hot_metalhead@xanga

    This post reeks of troll.  It is dead obvious that you have no problem with the industry promoting eating disorders by advertising with ONLY size-0 girls; you're just biased against anyone over size 4, which is both sad and ridiculous.  Also, curvy does not mean fat.  When will people understand this?  A girl who wears a size 4 can be curvy based on body proportions.  A girl who wears a size 12 can have a body shape that doesn't have many curves, even though she wears a bigger size.  That doesn't make either of them fat or freakish or unattractive.  THEY ARE JUST 2 DIFFERENT SIZES, ONE ISN'T RIGHT AND THE OTHER WRONG.


    I think that we just need some middle-range sizes in advertising.  Not underweight, not overweight, not extremes, but in the size 4-10 range (and yes, you can be a size 10 and still be healthy and normal weight if you're tall, so don't even tell me that size 10 means fat).  Why is that so fucking difficult?  And why can't people just be fucking nice to those of a different size?  Even the "we shouldn't hate on skinny girls" posts are filled with obvious hate for fat girls, and vice versa.  Let's all just STFU and mind our business/weight and let other people mind theirs.  The world would be so much better that way.

  • blonde_apocalypse@xanga

     It's especially easy to pass judgement when you're 22 and male.  The fact is, a woman has a higher percentage of body fat than a man does, even if she's "thin" and he's a lazy fat ass.  I get pretty tired of young men who eat pizza and nachos every day of their lives and spend their days playing video games calling a woman who meticulously counts out the number of carrots she can eat that day and does aerobics 12 times a week fat and lazy.  Testosterone does that for men: gives them a muscle advantage.

  • babiipnay7o6@xanga

    @writemyheartt@xanga - 0 is definitely a size and doesn't always mean stick skinny.

    @hot_metalhead@xanga - I agree with you to an extent. 0-2 shouldn't be the only sizes advertized, but I don't think it's fair to exclude the 0-3 girls in the range you stated. Because they too, can be healthy, non-anorexic, and not extreme.

    I'll use myself as an example. I'm a 0. I don't look like a twig and have never been criticized for being "too skinny". Why? because I don't look like a toothpick. I'm proportioned quite alright.

    Also, I don't associate the word curvy for larger women. I believe it's a word overweight women use to try and justify their size, which isn't okay. I associate curvy with the ideal hour glass figure, a round booty, and a nice rack. Fat girls tend to have the big two, but sorry sweethearts, fat rolls aren't included. 

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